Touchofgrey

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  How Did Watchtower Sell the "Jonadab" Concept ?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. beliefs

  simply put; gullible people were told if they chose life on earth instead of heaven, they wouldn't have to die.

  that's how they sold it.

  the watchtower lied to people in the 1920 booklet and convention series titled "millions now living will never die!

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  Touchofgrey

  Sea breeze

  Extra ordinary claims demand extra ordinary evidence.

  The empty tomb myth has been debunked many times on this forum because of a lack of verified evidence and yet you continue to make the same unfounded claims.
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  Time of the end - a TRINITY puzzler.

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. bible

  (matthew 24:36) “concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the son, but only the father.".

  (jesus seems to have forgotten to include the holy spirit not knowing either).

  (acts 1:7) "he said to them: “it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.".

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  Touchofgrey

  Trinity mythology has been around before christianity even thought of the idea .

  Sumerian,Hinduism, ancient Egypt and Greek and Roman mythology.

  The trinity belief is based on that a miracle worker called jesus existed and was killed and raised from the dead, there is no independently verified evidence that such a person ever existed, there was possibly a apocalyptic preacher who was killed by the Romans and the mythology of the jesus story started from that .

  So the Christian concept of a trinity is like all the other trinity's beliefs which are based on myths.
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  How Can The Governing Body Be Considered The "Channel Of Communication" From Jehovah Without Being Inspired . . . How Is That Possible???

  by AbaddonProvesIt in

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  video # 1,246: how can the governing body be considered the "channel of communication" from jehovah without being inspired .

  the collapse of governing body member jeffrey winder's arguments: a critical look at a jehovah's witness excuse [by watchtower examination, winston gillum - montego bay, jamaica].

  the governing body of jehovah's witnesses believe & teach millions upon millions of jehovah's witnesses world wide that they as a body, are not inspired or infallible.

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  Touchofgrey

  The governing body is manmade and its purpose is to control and manipulate people with the uninspired word of man.
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  The Coming Global Salvation - (Not Universalism)

  by Sea Breeze in

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  the overwhelming majority of the early church leaders (fathers) were premillennial and believed in a literal 1000 yr. kingdom.

  today, 2/3 of christians are amillennial.

  i do not want to imply that amilennialists, are not christian.

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  Touchofgrey

  Its not just the jw hierarchy that uses physiological manipulation and coercive control over its followers, ALL religion's use there man made doctrines to control and manipulate their followers .

  People just need to take some time to educate themselves about what physiological manipulation and coercive control is and how it is used to gain control over people.
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  Place of a Skull...Whose Skull?

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'll just shoot this short comment that i found interesting.

  the gospel of mark at 15:22 says: then they brought him to the place golgotha, which is translated, place of a/the skull (singular noun).. it might be surprising to learn there is no ancient record of any topographical location called "place of the skull".

  so, is that because of loss of information or is it suggestive that the 'place of the skull' had more christological meaning?

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  Touchofgrey

  Thanks again peacefulpete.

  Legend says that shem and melchizedek recovered Adams body from Noah's ark and angels guided them to golgotha to bury his bones so the blood of christ flowed down to cleanse Adams bones of original sin.
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  Is Belief in Jesus Enough to be Saved? Or Does it Include Believing Jesus?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. beliefs

  i don't think it is possible to believe in jesus and then not believe what he said.

  the purpose of the watchtower organization is to take as many people to hell as possible.

  they do this by tricking people into rejecting the bare minimum requirements for the free gift of salvation that jesus offered to ”whosoever”.. one of the stipulations for salvation is belief that jesus was raised from the dead:.

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  Touchofgrey

  Your free to believe in what ever you want regardless if it's true or not.

  There is no evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed.

  And if he did, again their is no way to confirm with any certainty that he said those words. As the gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events.
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  NOT on JW.org, If butt naked Adam and Eve were created 6,000 yrs ago....Explain this.

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  4/24 archeology magazine.

  "the taş tepeler, or stone mounds, in southeastern turkey’s şanlıurfa province arc roughly 125 miles along the foothills of the taurus mountains, overlooking the harran plain and the balikh river, a tributary of the euphrates.

  the region features plateaus amid modest mountains.

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  Touchofgrey

  Adam and eve are part of the creation myths, influenced by babylonian and other middle eastern myths, possibly dated around 600 BCE.
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  6 billion people to bury who rejected Witnesses

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. bible

  so i guess the "paradise" earth is going to be stinky to the point of vomiting with 6 billion dead bodies of not witnesess.

  how long would it take to bury these people?

  maybe 2 years.

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  Touchofgrey

  Did fred Franz not have the mad idea that god could use anti matter to dispose of the bodies after armageddon.
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  Dinosaur Soft Tissue

  by Sea Breeze in

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  back when the dinosaur soft tissue story was broken in 2005, i predicted that that many more soft tissues would be found and that it wouldn't matter if it was supposedly "65 million" years old or "165 million" years old.

  the prediction has proven true and dinosaur soft tissue is routinely now found regardless of supposed age.

  this is easy to predict using a literal reading of genesis and accepting it as history.... .

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  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_time

  Deep time spans billions of years not just 6000 years .
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  Dinosaur Soft Tissue

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  back when the dinosaur soft tissue story was broken in 2005, i predicted that that many more soft tissues would be found and that it wouldn't matter if it was supposedly "65 million" years old or "165 million" years old.

  the prediction has proven true and dinosaur soft tissue is routinely now found regardless of supposed age.

  this is easy to predict using a literal reading of genesis and accepting it as history.... .

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  Touchofgrey

  As far as I remember as a jw ,each creative day was a 1000 year, so 6000 years took us to 1975.

  And then because of advances in understanding the age of the earth etc it was changed to each day being a undisclosed period of time.

  The bible is not a scientific book, it's a book of fiction and mythology. So why anyone would believe that it is to be taken literally in the 21st century is beyond sensibility and to ignore and dismiss the overwhelming evidence for the age of the earth etc.